WT: Might As Well Be Cooking On The Sun

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Out of the fire and into the even hotter frying pan! The end of the iTunes brand? Millenial speak. Snoozing, but not necessarily losing. A 104-year-old silent film is found. Got something weird? Email [email protected], subject line “Weird Things.”

Picks:

Justin: Going Infinite from Michael Lewis

Brian: The Canceling of the American Mind

Bryce: Crow Country

Episode Notes

The episode opens with a discussion of SharkNinja's Ninja Neverstick cookware and a lawsuit over marketing claims that the pans are heated to 30,000 degrees Fahrenheit. The hosts debate whether the claim is literal or exaggerated advertising, compare it to other flashy marketing language, and talk through how a deceptive-marketing class action might work if consumers were misled.

Later, the hosts discuss Apple possibly retiring the iTunes name, reflecting on how iTunes shifted from CD-ripping and downloads to a less central role in a streaming era. The episode also covers the Sam Bankman-Fried case and how its transcripts use coded or gamer-style language, which leads into a broader conversation about algorithmic moderation, euphemistic speech online, creator transparency, snoozing alarms, and the rediscovery of the silent film Sealed Hearts.

Key topics

  • Scientific-sounding advertising claims in consumer products: The hosts discuss the claim that Ninja Neverstick pans are heated to 30,000 degrees Fahrenheit and question whether that is a factual product claim or marketing hype.
  • Class action strategy and deceptive marketing: They talk about the lawsuit by Patricia Brown, including whether consumers were deceived enough to support a class action and how legal liability would depend on the exact claims made.
  • Apple's iTunes legacy and the shift from downloads to streaming: The discussion covers the possibility of retiring the iTunes brand, the split into Music/Podcasts/TV apps, and nostalgia for the old iTunes and iPod era.
  • Platform moderation and the invention of soft-coded language: Bryce brings up an article about 'algo speak' and the hosts discuss euphemisms like 'unalive,' 'S3GGS,' and 'nip-nops' as a response to moderation and AI filtering.
  • Poster rights and moderation transparency: The hosts argue that platforms should tell creators what rule they violated, what the punishment is, and how long it lasts, instead of leaving moderation decisions opaque.
  • YouTube algorithm behavior and invalid traffic flags: Brian describes a case where YouTube seems to promote an old video, then flags the resulting traffic as invalid and cuts monetization, illustrating contradictory platform systems.
  • How alarm certainty affects sleep quality: The snooze-button segment turns into a broader claim that knowing exactly when you will wake up can help people fall asleep and stay on a stable sleep schedule.
  • Preserving old film and other lost media: The rediscovery of Sealed Hearts prompts discussion of lost films turning up in estates and the importance of archiving and preserving cultural media.

Picks

  • Brian Brushwood: The Canceling of the American Mind — Brian said he had just read it and liked it quite a bit. He described it as a criticism of ad hominem attacks and a call for difficult public dialogue.
  • Justin Robert Young: Michael Lewis's book on Sam Bankman-Fried — Justin explicitly said he was pre-picking it and called the chapter he read excellent, while noting he had not finished the book.
  • Bryce Castillo: Crow Country — Bryce said he highly recommends at least the demo of Crow Country and described it as an atmospheric horror game with a strong PlayStation-era feel.